I want to know more about Russian rugby !

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  • #51878

    Olivier
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    Who are all these players who defeated Romania and Portugal, draw Portugal and nearly defeated Italy A ?

    Russia against Portugal (1):

    1 Alexandr Khrokin 2 Roman Romak 3 Ivan Prishpenko (18)
    4 Alexandr Voitov 5 Kiril Kulemin
    6 Viacheslav Grachev (Capt.) 7 Andrei Garbuzov (17) 8 Vladislav Korshunov (20)
    9 Alexandr Ianushkin 10 Iuri Kushnarov
    11 Alexandr Gvozdovski 12 Sergei Trishin 13 Andrei Kuzin 14 Pavel Novikov
    15 Konstantin Rachkov
    16 Michail Golosov 17 Artem Fatakhov (7) 18 Andrei Igretsov (3) 19 Alexandr Shakirov 20 Alexey Sarychev (8) 21 Igor Kluchnikov 22 Alexey Korobeynikov

    Russia against Romania:
    1 Alexander Khrokin, 2 Roman Romak, 3 Ivan Prischpenko,
    4 Alexander Voytov, 5 Kirill Koulemine,
    6 Artem Fatakhov, 7 Viacheslav Grachev, 8 Alexey Panasenko,
    9 Alexander Shakirov, 10 Alexey Korobeynikov,
    11 Valery Ignatiev, 12 Sergey Trishin, 13 Andrey Kuzin, 14 Pavel Novikov,
    15 Konstantin Rachkov
    16 Sergey Novoselov, 17 Vladislav Korshunov, 18 Victor Zdanovich, 19 Alexander Yanushkin, 20 Andrey Garbuzov, 21 Dmitry Zubarev, 22 Alexander Gvozdovskiy

    Russia against Portugal (2):
    1 Sergey Novoselov, 2 Vladimir Marchenko, 3 Ivan Prischpenko,
    4 Valery Fedchenko, 5 Andrey Garbuzov,
    6 Kirill Kushnarev, 7 Viacheslav Grachev (Captain), 8 Vladislav Korshunov,
    9 Victor Motorin, 10 Alexey Korobeynikov,
    11 Pavel Novikov, 12 Sergey Trishin, 13 Yaroslav Rechnev, 14 Alexander Gvozdovskiy,
    15 Valery Ignatiev
    17 Roman Romak, 18 Alexander Khrokin, 19 Alexander Voytov, 20 Artem Fatakhov, 21 Alexander Shakirov, 22 Yury Kushnarev, 23 Igor Klyuchnikov

    Russia against Italy A :
    1 Alexander Khrokin, 2 Roman Romak, 3 Sergey Popov(Prishpenko),
    4 Valery Fedchenko, 5 Sergey Sergeev,
    6 Andre Garbouzov (Novoselov), 7 Artem Fatachov, 8 Viacheslav Grachev,
    9 Alexander Shakirov (Motorin), 10 Alexey Korobeynikov,
    11 Maxim Konchakov, 12 Yuri Kushnarev, 13 Yaroslav Rechnev, 14 Andrey Kuzin,
    15 Valery Ignatiev (Zubarev),
    16 Vladimir Marchenko, 17 Sergey Novoselov, 18 Ivan Prishepenko, 19 Victor Motorin, 20
    Kirill Kushnarev, 21 Dmitry Zubarev, 22 Sergey Trishin

    Players used (start + subs):
    Props : Khrokin (3+1), Prischpenko (3+1), Igretsov (0+1), Novoselov (1+2), Popov (0+1)
    Hookers : Romak (3+1), Marchenko (1+1)
    Locks : Voytov (2+1), Koulemine (2), Fedchenko (2), Sergeev (1),
    Back Row : Grachev (4), Garbuzov (3+1), Korshunov (2+1), Panasenko (1), Fatakhov (2+2), Sarychev (0+1), K. Kushnarev (1+1)
    Scrum-half : Ianushkin (1), Shakirov (2), Motorin (1+1)
    Half-back : Korobeynikov (3), Kushnarev (2)
    Centers : Trishin (3), Kuzin (3), Rechnev (2)
    Wing : Novikov (3), Gvozdovski (2+1), Konchakov (1)
    Fullback : Ignatiev (3), Rachkov (2), Zubarev (0+1)

    So, 32 players were used for these four big games. So how old are they ? How good are they ? Does Russia have much more depth ? Is Korobeynikov a star ?

    #70673

    ZUKЕR
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    Hi, Olivier! Where are you from?

    Yes, you are right, 32 players for 4 match is much more. But the last 2 match (Portugal and Italy-A) It has been test, our coaches have checked young and older players……

    Normally, our team are:
    Props : Khrokin , Prischpenko
    Hookers : Romak , Marchenko
    Locks : Voytov , Koulemine , Fedchenko
    Back Row : Grachev , Korshunov , Panasenko , Fatakhov , K. Kushnarev
    Scrum-half : Shakirov, Ianushkin
    Half-back : Korobeynikov , A. Kushnarev
    Centers : Trishin , Kuzin , Rechnev
    Wing : Novikov , Gvozdovski
    Fullback : Rachkov

    Head coach : Johaness Gruneveld (SA Rep.)

    Grachev (Lyon), Koulemine (Agen), Rachkov (Bayonne) are our foregn legion. They are very good players. Now before 2006 qualification`s games It may be possible to return russian rugby star Sergey Sergeev (lock, 40 y.o., Montoban`s ex-cap. and real star). He played the last match vs Italy-A.

    Any questions? 😉

    #70674

    Петр Драконы
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    A lot of information can be gathered by scanning publicly available web sites, in English and Russian. I do not believe this is the right place.

    I would also advise you to visit the forum of FIRA-AER —

    http://www.fira-aer-rugby.com/forum/index.php

    #70675

    Петр Драконы
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    Zuk, Grachev plays in Bayonne (TOP 16), and Rachkov just moved to Tarbes (PRO D2).

    #70676

    Holzauge
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    Hi !

    > I do not believe this is the right place.

    😆 😆 😆

    believe ? 😯 Sure may be? 😆

    And what _are_ you doing here in this case ? 😕

    dragons.org is better I _b e l i e v e_ 😆 😆 😆

    Olivier, ZUKЕR answered competent enough.

    Good luck!
    Holzauge


    Save Water. Drink Beer.

    #70677

    Петр Драконы
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    By ‘not the right place’, I meant there are many sites dedicated to international rugby having a lot of information on Russian national team.

    Should rugby-forum.ru become one of those, I see no problem. But today it is basically a very good site for discussions in Russian about rugby issues, mainly amateur rugby in Russia.

    moscowdragons.org will be replaced by moscowdragons.ru, under cinstruction for the time being.

    #70678

    RuggerUA
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    @Петр (Драконы) wrote:

    I do not believe this is the right place.

    Petr, with all due respect, I don’t think you have the right to discourage people from asking questions on this forum. Yes, this forum is mostly Russian-speaking, but we have an English-language section for a reason.

    I advised Olivier to ask his question here after he couldn’t get much info on the IRB website, because I believe at the moment this is the ONLY place for someone to be able to talk to English-speaking Russian rugby players and fans directly, not through international forums where they may or may not visit. If Dragons had an active discussion forum on their website, maybe I would have directed Olivier there.

    I understand your motivation, you are trying to «guard your turf» and prevent RC Forum from attracting expatriate players, which you see as an exclusive privilege of the Moscow Dragons. But the Dragons don’t have exclusive rights to expat rugby in Russia, and if someone feels more comfortable playing with RC Forum, I believe he is free to do so.

    In any case, this is not the point, because I think Olivier has no plans to come to Moscow any time soon, and simply wanted to talk about Russian rugby with English-speaking Russian rugby fans, which is precisely what this website can provide.

    #70679

    Петр Драконы
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    I think you misunderstood my point.

    I only try to encourage people to search the right resources on the Net which do exist (IRB site is just one of them), not to discourage them to do anything.

    We do not worry about expatriates coming to us rather than to Forum (MGTU?). And the English page of this forum, lunched many months ago, has been sleeping for long, so it’s funny to defend the concept with such an emotion.

    #70680

    Olivier
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    @ZUKЕR wrote:

    Hi, Olivier! Where are you from?

    Yes, you are right, 32 players for 4 match is much more. But the last 2 match (Portugal and Italy-A) It has been test, our coaches have checked young and older players……

    Normally, our team are:
    Props : Khrokin , Prischpenko
    Hookers : Romak , Marchenko
    Locks : Voytov , Koulemine , Fedchenko
    Back Row : Grachev , Korshunov , Panasenko , Fatakhov , K. Kushnarev
    Scrum-half : Shakirov, Ianushkin
    Half-back : Korobeynikov , A. Kushnarev
    Centers : Trishin , Kuzin , Rechnev
    Wing : Novikov , Gvozdovski
    Fullback : Rachkov

    Head coach : Johaness Gruneveld (SA Rep.)

    Grachev (Lyon), Koulemine (Agen), Rachkov (Bayonne) are our foregn legion. They are very good players. Now before 2006 qualification`s games It may be possible to return russian rugby star Sergey Sergeev (lock, 40 y.o., Montoban`s ex-cap. and real star). He played the last match vs Italy-A.

    Any questions? 😉

    Yes, many questions.

    First, I would like to say that Russian players are very unknown in Western Europe except players abroad.
    What is the level of your backs ? I know that Korobeynikov and Trishin are young players don’t know their level of play.
    Is possible to find player profiles and stats in the the Russian Super League ?

    #70681

    ZUKЕR
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    Olivier

    What is is the level of our backs ? It depends, you-know…. For example our spetialists suppose that they could be leaders for Federale-1 French`s rugby Champ. Not more. Our forwards are more strongest than 3/4. May be it`s tradition style of all ex-USSR rugby teams — mighty scrum and idifferent backs.
    In this time our backs and 9-10 are young players. I hope with perspective. There are just 3 Russian clubs which are base of our National Teams — VVA (Monino, not far from Moscow), Krasny Yar , Enisey-STM (both from Krasnoyarsk). And all main backs from theirs are candidate in National Team.

    VVA — Motorin (9), Shakirov (9), Kushnarev Y. (10), Trishin, Kuzin, Kluchnikov
    Krasny Yar — Simonov, Gvozdovski
    Enisey-STM — Korobeinikov (10), Ignatiev, Novikov

    In fact VVA`s backs are our Rugby-7 Team……

    #70682

    Anonymous
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    Add to this list:

    Krasny Yar — Galinovskiy (very hot prospect IMHO)
    Enisey-STM — Y. Rechnev
    RC Penza — Yanushkin (9)
    Tarbes (Fr) — Rachkov (15)

    #70683

    Olivier
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    Is Sergeev the most cap Russian player ever ? If yes, how many caps did he gain ?

    Who is the player with most points with Russia ? Is he alredy Korobeynikov ?

    #70684

    Nick
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    @olivier wrote:

    Who is the player with most points with Russia ?

    In 2005 Loskutov (Penza) 177 pts, Kazantsev (VVA, 2006-Slava) 143 pts, Novikov (STM) 122 pts, Akulov (STM) 117pts, Simonov (Yar) 115 pts, Ershov (Slava) 115 pts
    In 2006 i think Motorin (VVA), Loskutov (Penza), Ershov (Slava), Kiknadze (Yar), Akulov (STM). Waiting official statistics

    #70685

    Olivier
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    I wanted to say for the national team.

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